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>> the control must provide the background to this is the library system has the exact same funding arrangement being proposed for the park and existing 75 fund from property tax and a baseline funding from the discretionary general fund. but the library has specified spending priorities for the set-aside money in the charter. they must specified use of the unspent set-aside fund at
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year's end. the controller is required to calculate and publish the actual amount of city money for the library. we would like the same words to be inserted into this. the addendum is from proposition d. further information 2007 the library preservation fund amendment to charter provided as example of specificity. thank you. >>good morning. i'm nancy wilson can form a member of the yet i'm deeply concerned voters will not be getting the maintenance for our parks that is been promised to them with this new charter amendment. unless the requirements tackle the problems are specified in the legal language. big state that $1.7 billion abatements on the books. not one word of how
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this backlog would be reduced is in the charter amendment. however, 150,000 trees that are in the park also need regular attention. we need $6 billion a year, every year, to increase the urban forces debarked trees on a better schedule of maintenance. does anyone believe that magically recreation park will start funding 3 min. of us are mandated to do so in this charter amendment? much of the upkeep we need an parks can and should be done to a well-developed operational plan him and not a capital plan. we have had the benefit of 15 years experience with a $40 million open-space funds and can see where improvement is needed in allocating this money. the new measure should earmark some stunning to solve the chronic problems. i've heard we should not list priorities for these funds and that we should allow back and part the flexibility to spend money any way they see fit. flexibility is another word for
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unaccountability. the voters should tell back in part what we want our money to accomplish. back in part must be held accountable to show us what they've actually done towards the goal of producing the one point the 1.7 million backlog and we should not wait five years for performance audit that will not even give us an accounting. i do want more money for my rec and park department. so they can keep us [inaudible] but this charter moment does not do anything to fix the problem. enter the school accountability in the funds by prioritizing how the money will be spent the measure is not ready for the voters approval. thank you. >>thank you for bringing this forward. we fully supported. we think it's important for recreation parks and recreation to get more market will be set of course and a disservice. we
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do feel it's really important that the maintenance and the upkeep is included in the moment for money many others that was really important that would've been great if that had been the case in the past. accountability reporting. in communication with neighborhood people because they're so many active volunteers like us, and other organizations, that are such a great source of information for everybody. thank you. >> chairman avalos supervisor cohen my name is rose mike cameron as a member of the san francisco arts alliance board of directors am here today to urge you to express your support for our city's parks and their needs for increased and dependable maintenance funding a moving supervisor farrell's
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forward to the full board of supervisors. multiple public opinion polls bear out what we all know, which is that our cities parks and recreation program contributes greatly to the quality of life and health of all san franciscans. it recently, the trust of public land published an economic benefit study and it details how our park system generates nearly $1 billion annually in economic activity. you know, it's not just the tech sector sector doing that. while of voters have approved park bonds that have provided significant infusions of capital dollars for much-needed improvement to playgrounds and participants, the city financial support for ongoing maintenance and operations of our parks has not kept up with those long-term needs. in fact, san francisco parks alliance has recently
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published picking green report documents on recreation and parks department will only continue to fall further behind on deferred maintenance backlog. they will not be able to keep up to meet our needs for our growing population. it makes no sense to invest in new facilities without adequately maintaining what we have. thanks to supervisor farrell's leadership you have before you a well-crafted charter amendment to increase critically needed funding for our parks over the next 15 years. we are very pleased with the and supportive of the amendment that than previously offered. we are here today to urge you to vote yes, to move this baseline funding measure forward to the board. >> and we commit to helping to support it actively before the board and before the voters when it goes there. >> thank you. one more card.
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schoolboard commissioner, rachel morten. >> we are ready for it. >> someone is ringing a parks and rec board. do me a favor, open the space front door and let them in. let them in. it's thomas jefferson and george washington, two, abraham lincoln , let them in. thanks, phil. yes. yes. i want to also say, the city charm and open space, but there is no place like [inaudible].
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>> okay. did you want to sing? >> i did not write a song and that's a tough act to follow. i will go. my name is rachel norton. i am-thank you for recommending, the board of education did muscle employee of the [inaudible]. i want to articulate again our support for this charter amendment. it's been a long and very rich policy conversation. we are very happy with how it comes out. there are some trade-offs as there always are in detail which policy conversations. i did want to touch on one thing that was mentioned. only a pollyanna, but actually i do think that this amendment is going to introduce a lot of new accountability to the department. in addition to that, it appears that
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accountability with resources. i think the reason that apartment has got so behind on its maintenance, has got so behind on the planning requirements is that is not had ample resources did we demonstrated that in our analysis over and over and over again. so, i do believe that now that there are some new resources that are slated to come into that apartment and there some clear requirements about the operational planning about the strategic planning, and that planning will have to be drive the budget priorities, we fully intend to parks alliance two oldest department accountable and work with them closely on the development of those operational plans and how those operational plans translate into budget priorities. i think they will do that. i think that committed to us that they will do that. i think they want to do that for themselves. i think this really can usher in a new era for us much smarter and effective park policy. thank you. >> thank you very much for are there any other members of the public would like to comment on item number two? seeing none,
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will close public comments. >>[gavel] >> commissioner farrell >> thank you everyone who came out today to speak on this measure. and to our rec center part and parks alliance and other members working on this for quite some time now. we look forward to the continuing discussions. again want to think my colleagues and my cosponsors. with that i would love to make a motion to continue this item for january 14 the rules committee meeting. >> okay. could you give that date one more time >> january 14 >> i make a motion to continue this item the next many january 14 >> before we build on that, i want to hear from our city attorney about what our timeline is for charter amendments. what kind of room do we have to discuss this in the rules committee before the board of supervisors?
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>> deputy city atty. john given her. so, the last day,, the last regular board meeting to submit a charter amendment other than the one day charter measure or bond is february 23. if this charter amendment was a late measure for the june election, you could submit it on march 1. what that means is, to continue the item today to january 14, and potentially make amendments at that meeting, you have to continue the measure for another was committee meeting under the municipal election elvia generate 28th meeting as long as the rules committee schedule stays the same in the new year, and you could send the item out of committee on january 28. you can do it as a committee reported it would go to the first meeting in february. you
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can do it not as a committee report he would go to favre 16th which i think is the next regular board meeting. every charter amendment, as you know, has to sit for a week at the full board before it can be voted on which means you send it out out of committee on january 20, even if it's not a committee report the board can build on it by the deadline unsavory 23rd. so, guess the bottom line of all those dates is, if the committees can be making amendments, best thing is to make those amends on january 14 so you can move it along on schedule. >> thank you. very good. so we have a motion before us and that's been seconded by supervisor cohen so will hear this again on january 14. in the meantime, we'll work closely with supervisor farrell's office and stakeholders and other parties to make our final amendments. >>[gavel] >> were going to do a little
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bit in 1 min. break here as were getting set up. >> okay we are back for today's main event. mr. clerk, please call our next item >> item number three consider appointing 14 numbers august 20 august 31, 2016 to the canada state legalization task force. there are 40 applicants >> colleagues, today before us are appointments, 15 members to the cannabis legalization task force. early this year as we recall either legislation to create this task force so that san francisco can get ahead of
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the curve when it comes to the strong potential that as of next november, the use of cannabis will be be legal in california. if that happens to be a significant change for state and will place before us a number of significant issues in terms of land-use and zoning in terms of health and public safety and so forth. it's important for us to be thinking about these issues ahead of time. my concern is if we do not go through this process legalization will occur and we will have fire drill after the fact to get it together and come up with a smart local regulations and so, the legislation requires the appointment of a task force, 50 members that we appoint, and in seven additional members who are
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representatives of departments nonvoting members. so that this group starting in january, to go to a process of vetting the state proposals, taking a look at what the local issues are likely to be and then making recommendations to the board of supervisors about legislation to try to address those issues. we structure this task force so it is not limited to the cannabis community about but includes a broader business community and our neighborhood associations, city departments and school districts. and so forth. organized labor. to make sure that were getting a broad-based look as though that when these recommendations come out they will come from a very diverse group of stakeholders and will have that much more behind them. so, i'm excited over here to do with quite a few very good applicants. i will also say
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what i always say when it about once a year sit in the number of the rules committee, that never requested to be on this committee because you have to make choices among very very good people, and that is certainly the case here. it's hard to do that where you have numerous people applying for the same seat. people are really good and you have to choose one good person over a good people and that's always incredibly hard but i know will fully vet the candidates today and make some good recommendations to the full board of supervisors. mr. chairman, i appreciate the opportunity. >> very good. thank you.this is good via jigsaw puzzle today, but i am here, as part of my work, to put the pieces together with my colleagues. so when we go to our first applicant and that will be eric pearson.2 min. per person. to
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present yourself. >> yes. to the staff and supervisors think is much for being on the forefront of the cannabis regulation. two other candidates think of are volunteering to be on this important body. the many qualified candidates and hope for the opportunity to work on the task force would each of you. my name is eric pierce and i'm the founder of spark one of san francisco's largest dispensary operators. on the client proceeds nine-third. i feel them best-spark has been ruggedized by many leaders as a model dispensary having hosted tors for elected officials one person others were adjusted in creating an understanding cannabis policy. as a man who's worked in the industry for 70 years by diversity's commitment to helping regulations of benefit everyone can do generally write as a california will vote the legalization of
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cannabis in november of this coming year. this task force is opportunity great sound policy. knowing these issues i believe all uniquely qualified for the customers with valuable insight with emerging and established best practice as well as the intersection of these practices current and proposed regulars. the past 17 years within a leader in the community and served on the san francisco dist. atty.'s medical marijuana advisory group as well as appointed to the san francisco working group. as well as the founding group of the national cannabis industry association, which works to basically provide guidance to congress on in fomenting laws around the country. i encourage you to reach out to me anytime you wish to discuss the issues in more detail. thanks for your support and attention to this most important matter. >> so, actually, each person, you will have the opportunity to receive questions from us as well. so, you are the first one going so you're setting the
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stage for everyone. we might not have questions for every candidate coming for but since you're the first person i'll ask the first question and hope you'll be ready to talk about it. what you see is the primary goal of the task force,, and what you see your contribution being? >> absolute get adequate understanding of existing planning code how it relates to dispensaries as well as cultivation get we navigated administratively the cultivation process in the city. so, i do pretty good understanding with the code works. what needs to happen to my thing this process involves where the task force needs to basically, a lot of operational things that needed done but as far as zoning and regulating the grading more points of access my think that's part of the priority of the task force. so, what we need to do is take a look at colorado, washington and oregon. we need to look at
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the number of medical or 1a users and also look at number recreational marijuana users and look at that factor in colorado. we need to determine how many cannabis users will have in san francisco many stores that's going to take to distribute that cannabis once it's legal. we need to take a look at the state law which is currently set at 600 feet for sensitive uses so that reduces it from 1000 feet which is currently in san francisco. that's another sensitive use such as [inaudible] personas. we need to create views on that and we need to look at the number of dispensaries we need based on the number of users and whether that [inaudible] something i worked on in the last two weeks was rashly amend the legalization initiative is currently final nail. to allow local jurisdictions to change that 600 feet if they so choose. what that does it allows us to grandfathering existing dispensaries that within 600 feet. we have already permitted
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these in san francisco. it allows us to change that 600 foot wall if we so choose to. so, number of users, green zone at 600 feet, green zone need a change from 600 feet. then, how do we find the number of dispensaries and where do they fit within this existing-with the new proposed green zone and clustering to create as much access without having to much concentration in one given area. i think the zoning is the largest issue. then as a myriad of other operational issues that stem awfully back from the legislation that was passed in 2006. because we have not even looked at medical candidates regulation operationally since we passed in 2006. >> okay. sounds like an easy task. >> it can be really easy. >> okay. thank you. any other questions? will go onto the next applicant. let me get my notes here. amanda riemann.
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not attending. michael barber. >> hello, supervisors. my name is michael-i'm a fourth-generation native san franciscan. i've lived here all my life born and raised in sale in san francisco. i've done everything medical marijuana for the past 20 years ranging from bicycle delivery to president of the board of spark. currently, i work at bernal heights dispensary. i also do a support group for apothecary am doing that for about four years now. i think i am most qualified for seat number 18, doug policy in cannabis. i've been in the substance abuse counseling
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since 1999. i have currently 17 people that i take care of on a weekly basis. san francisco is like my hometown some very proud of it will be honored to serve on this committee. i did serve on the marijuana oversight committee until it's unsetting a couple years ago. i served under supervisors duffy, campos, and chris daly. they pointed me to that task force, and i would like the opportunity like yesterday to get all the advisors assistance and him make this short and sweet but if you have any questions of me? >> thank you. just a big softball question is what you see is the main task and what would your contribution be? >> i also agree with eric on every thing he said. expansion of the green zone is pertinent to everything coming into full
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force and working great. i also would like, earlier talk about budgetary issues with the parks and recreation. with the money raised from the cannabis we can learn from colorado could have an abundance of tax money we can uses tax money for parks or streets or school. for so many things. >> grades. thank you. okay, next up is jesse stout. >>good morning supervised. thanks for having me. my name is jesse stout. i live and work here in san francisco. as a lawyer with greenwich corporate counsel we do business law for cannabis companies. so, help canada's companies to get started in san francisco and
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california as well as comply really with our state and local regulations. i'm applying proceeds nine, 11, 12, 14 and 18. i got started in the medical cannabis movement 13 years ago in 2002 because i made a friend who is suffering from multiple sclerosis and had extremely painful muscle spasms. throughout her body and her doctor had advised her to you medical marijuana or where i was living at the time that was illegal. so, rather than have her face incarceration, we were able to pass a medical marijuana law. i became a community organizer connecting patients with legislators and learned the patient focused up into my drug policy work. develop the skill to mitigate with diverse stakeholders including patients and the media and law-enforcement and medical professionals. i was in law school in california i served as a legal intern to visibly committee on public safety. in 2012 including drafting the state committee policy analysis for 80 2312 are medical marijuana that they'll
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get since law school i worked as a policy director as legal services for-[inaudible] where i learned a long tube medical milk marijuana and communicate with formerly incarcerated people and to work closely with people and bring people from people different backgrounds and now as an attorney with greenberg counsel, michael's for serving on this task force include addressing the venues and permitting issue with the green zone distances, and also to make medical marijuana taxation and eventually cannabis taxation warfare both for patients and users. >> thanks. right on the belt. thank you. the softball question. what you see the primary goal and what would
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your contributions being? speak of having my contributions would include being able to help that force to mitigate with the public about our work of cannabis legalization policy. as well as helping that has force to address the legal regulatory issues having to do with conflict of laws between state and local government as well as state and federal government to bring a special focus on the issues that been so thorny for san francisco and states that already legalize cannabis including venues permitting so that we are able to de-cluster or just clustering as we increase the number of cannabis businesses in the city as well as to make canada's taxation warfare as we bring in more taxes from adult users we ought to be able to lower taxes for serious ill parishes use marijuana as a medicine. finally, to address the public aspects of legalization. i think would be preferable not to have large cannabis billboards clustering around the airports and large signs outside of businesses, but instead to carefully and thoughtfully regulate how the cannabis industry faces the public including how we do or
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do not allow smoking in public as opposed to noninvasive methods of consumption like eating vaporizing camera cannabis. >> thank you. >> thank you do we get up to bring up support witnesses or no? >> adobe public comment afterward and supporters can speak at that point. >> bt >> thank you. next up is michael caruso. >> good morning, everyone can supervisors and staff. my name is michael caruso. applying proceeds number nine and 22 the cannabis passports. i'm a 26-year-old i live in separate cisco for about 2.5 years now. i've enacted in the cannabis industry for over five years did i graduate from the university michigan with a degree in american culture would have focused on the progression of cannabis in our society. in 2011 i was given the opportunity to build a
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dispensary is a 20 min. old i was asked not only assumptions collected by performing essential functions of a community reason. navigating a board and city concerns as well as working group rapidly changing legal climate. in 2012 by dispensary one of readers choice for dispensaries from the trip truly-a few months later began working as a in 2013 i made the move to california when i'd probably start working as manager for the san francisco spot. over the years >> sir you said 2013 move to san francisco? >> yes. right. over the years have become a resource from a coburg employees but for the thousands of members i interact with the weekly based it i worked abridgingmost recently i
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inquired over $10,000 solely for my team from various cannabis entities. with a good opportunity in your attention today is the removal to work together to bring the cannabis industry to a safe and prosperous future here in semper cisco. thank you. >>anything else to add? >> that's it. >> thank you. next up is brent sub >> my name is brent selby. i live in district 8. other primarily in district 10 and i
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am here applying proceeds nine, 11, and 12. but in a cannabis activist for over 30 years. traveling around the country advocating for new legalization as well as working locally. i have a deep-seated understanding of cannabis culture and its impact as more than just a commodity. way more. after moving to san francisco in 1991, i became in the rehabilitation industry running legalization homes and reentry homes for a church-based organization mostly in mission district. i have an appreciation for those who choose to use cannabis responsibly and i think important thing is the distinction between the sponsor will use an responsible use of anything. having experience and the rehab industry, i also have important understanding of the distinction between
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organizational deliver it like crack and heroin like that are ruining our neighbors and cannabis and want to emphasize its influence as a plant able to grown by anyone. the mother with just about every aspect of this industry having worked in san francisco developing storefronts, both existing and startups. i worked mostly gardens, dispensing and not dispensing gardens. i've been growing cannabis myself for over 30 years. i'm well-versed in the different types of extraction and edible making processes that will be writing things about. having been rated seven times by the police myself my own gardens were found compliant with the rules i think of unique understanding and how to do with law-enforcement encounters incorporating those into reasonable rules and regulations that we working on. i'm a father of two children, 14 and 17 years old. >> keep going >> i daughters going off to
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college and my son goes to school at academy and excels her. one of the reasons i'm really think is important thing is because, as kids are growing up, oftentimes we've had unfavorable law-enforcement encounters that change the rest of our lives. i look forward to my son and my daughter not having to face those impacts if ever they choose to use cannabis. i know that often time, and san francisco we can change the course of our youth so easily so i'm very interested in trying to work for some reasonable easy to understand regulations for law-enforcement as well as the people of our city. >> thank you very much. no other questions. appreciate your time. when you hear the bell, such as a guideline to know your 2 min. of bible comes to public comment, would hold you to the two-minute mark. so, next up will be nicholas smile. if you could say your name
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better than me, please. >> it's nicholas smith. better than most. my name is nicholas-i am the cofounder and head of operations of flow cannabis here in san francisco which is the first-ever farm to table all organic cannabis model. before that, i worked with spark here in san francisco for around five years. was the third higher there on the retail team. as director of community outreach. i am also president of the san francisco chapter of americans for safe access. through my five years to my six years of working in cannabis. san francisco, both built and implemented standard operating practices that are exceptional and national models for businesses all across the country. we have an opportunity here in san francisco to build
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a cannabis industry that really supplies middle-class jobs that are not currently of able here in san francisco. if we take aggressive movement towards that and actually embrace entrepreneurs here that want to build businesses just because they're cannabis we should let them do that. in addition, i just want to say ugly applicants here are great. i would love to work with all them get i worked with many of them in the past and would love the opportunity. so there's any other questions. >> do you have any thoughts about what your contribution would be? >> i bring an exceptional understanding of the business of cannabis. it operated several different dispensaries. wharton edibles. i worked in any fashion. i currently run a business that is both tech and cannabis, so i have that
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understanding as well. i think i also understand policy having worked with americans for safe access for the years that i worked with them. and having been involved in statewide legislation including eb-266 and 12/3 to which jesse referenced earlier. having a unique set of skills like that just don't really exist out there with other people. i also am extremely familiar with cannabis unlike-on a connoisseur level. so, either wide variety of skills involving cannabis that are pretty unique. >> what do you see in terms of lessons learned from states like washington, colorado, dc?
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>> i think we need to ensure our small businesses have a place to exist. we need to make sure that you don't need to be a giant corporation to operate in cannabis. we need to make sure both small farmers,, small cultivators, small dispensary operators, mom and pop stores come and compete right alongside with anyone who wants to-who is more capital than others. i think it's important that we build competitive marketplace here in san francisco and really embrace what were all about here and build a new industry that's like unlike anything else we've seen. i think we can take away from colorado the lack of quality for medicine. we can, you know, we can see how we would do it differently here. we can really expand our local beach and create a model which we already did for the medical system. so, continuing on that
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would be a best possible avenue. >> thank you. supervisor cohen >> supervisor avalos, one has to specifically if you can give us details as to your advocacy work that you highlighted in your comments.? >> i worked with americans for safe access president of the chapter we done found raising and outreach all the dispensaries. we been involved in any legislative issues that have come up. >> be outreach to the dispensary, without statewide or in the bay area? >> justin san francisco. with the san francisco chapter. >> comedy dispensaries we have here in san francisco? >> 28. >> perfect. when you get advocacy and outreach, what committees did you connect with? >> so, we had to-we opened in soma inspired. we had an entire neighborhood that was pretty blatant at the time. so, we
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work closely with everyone in that neighborhood times great with the business owners, with everyone around to integrate a better environment for people and taking >> do think you have been successful? was that a better neighborhood? >> for sure. when we per started i had to step over people to get from the parking lot to the dispensary. that back alley was an open-air drug market that was unlit and completely unregulated. >> is the alley that now? >> yes. the alley is lit now. there's no drug activity-i guess the building is being built right by weather has been a building built back there and another one coming in. so it's definitely very much a dispensary in every neighborhood they've opened that positive impact. and spock was definitely >> spot is relatively new, right? >> buddy dan.
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>> that's relatively new. five years. >> okay. >> thank you, no further questions >> i've another question. i'm not as anyone else's question but when we go to recreational use of marijuana, we are going to see a whole another level of potency, i would expect. how do you see that change? or usually a poignancy that has a different effect that different than what the medical purposes have been so far for cannabis. what kind of changes do you think that's going to present speed? what you think the differences can be the stores that sell cannabis? >> i think potency will creep up but probably won't evoke much higher than where it's at now. i think the biggest animals we've wrestled with the edibles and determining what have to do that on a statewide level as well. so determining
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what inadequate doses. colorado has 100 mg and 10 mg dose. that's a little low but we have a base here in san francisco that's a load that more experience. so trying to develop something that's a little more suited to them. we can look at sales data from dispensaries that all these people that are playing for this task force have worked at and no wet potencies are most in demand, when customers are most looking for. i think its all in how it's presented on a sales point of view could if you're completely educating the consumer about what you're doing , it makes it a lot easier for the patient to have a positive experience. so, transitioning back into the recreational and sort of getting the standard operating procedures as part of something that we implement here is important. >> thank you. no other
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questions? we will go on to our next applicants. that will be chase chambers. >> good morning, supervisors. my name is chase chambers and running proceeds nine, 10, 11, 12, working, 16, and 17. i then an operator in the medical cannabis dispensary for over four years. as an active member of the of exhibit a commitment to my community, neighbors and city in every decision i've made in local business or community group that i've worked with. over the years, i've worked closely with numerous event cannabis groups good businesses and employees from the over 35 professional four-time cannabis industry workers. with over a decade of experience in retail management in the cannabis industry i know i have a firm grasp on the challenges of labor, land use,
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finance most important, safety and education that comes with the sale and use of cannabis. i appreciate your consideration my application to work with this diverse group of community members on regulating adult use of cannabis here in san francisco. >> thank you. any questions i asked former applicants,, do you want to respond to? >> yes. i think i want to i think when use and access and financial advice and assistance is key to adult use and expansion of the industry here in san francisco. in california at large. so, i also want to emphasize that education on proper cannabis use. i think it's pivotal to the implementation of these regulations, and i think we have a responsibility to our communities to do so. >> what do you see right now currently providing medical cannabis. what gaps or knowledge you have about
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providing recreational use and access to cannabis? idc that's going to change your work? >> i've seen a big shift over the last five years and i know that edible have come up and concentrates and the regulation and the r responsible use of over the last five years we've seen a significant shift. the responsibility of manufacturing and selling those actual items to the general public and the medical marijuana industry. i think as it pertains to recreational use, i don't perceive that changing very much. i think that over the years you have seen people start to titrate those dosages. i think manufacturers see that they have a more-there being more responsible by offering something with more direction,
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more education, lower dosages, and education when they actually purchase those products could so, i really feel like we can welcome the adult use community in the same way that we work with the medical marijuana community. that, i believe that they will not come in looking for anything different. i think that both recreational use and medical users sometimes there's a very fine line between the two. i think i believe we will we need to focus on the labor, the people that'll be working in this industry. how can that support them and make them successful, that they are fairly treated and fairly paid. that they are ready to do the work that will be necessary to regulate both medical use as a continues and also with recreational use. >> grades. thank you. that was mr. chambers. ryan hudson,
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please. i don't have a notes whether ryan hudson is going to be here. mr. hudson. okay, will go on to wayne justin. please come forward. >> good morning, supervise. thank you for this opportunity to address you on this very important issue. as the other 2 min. of about 25 years together would've done. medical cannabis in our city. i was diagnosed hiv-positive in 1988 of course my attention turned to something other than the drugs i was taking took my problems. i soon learned of-and when dennis moved to 1444 market st., i moved with him. we really, group of people did some wonderful things at that time. of course, during that time opposition to 15 was
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passed. a great thing that we moved on to look at medical cannabis throughout the world we realize was started here in san francisco. now, to move on, i presently served as a national director of the american medical marijuana association. an organization started in 1999 by todd-steve covey, and rosenthal. jack herrera to address the issues we had a particular time. in the interim, between my responsibilities now and what we did there, in 1999, i opened a dispensary at 350 divisadero. that operated through the year 2007 and 20 week. during that time, i was able to organize an advisory task force that met here at city hall with the supervisors and with representatives of our various departments. we were fortunate to pass-and i just list all 12 of the resolutions this morning
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i can but the two important once the century resolution and one, the state card program that was initiated back in the year 2000 that we developed. i served with pamela harris when she was a district atty. i hope to open a dispensary in west hollywood and i am in regular conference with members of that community down there. in addition, i worked with supervisor paul-of the la city council to open a dispensary in venice. i am fortunate to bring that kind of experience to our city right now because we need to get a lot of things done. a question and answer. i heard people talk about the green zone. i think that's obvious. we have to look at that. as far as potency is concerned, it's important our medicine is tested. that's very important. something else i'd like to see good if i drink i
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can go to a sports bar enjoying my other friends watching a sports game. there is nowhere, as a person who uses cannabis, can i go in our city and join friends and enjoy ourselves. not all the dispensaries are able to operate allowing the use of cannabis. we need to do something about that. i believe that with this committee and with the energy that our board of supervisors has right now in our community, there's time to do. >> thank you very much. questions? next person is sarah payan. >> thank you. my name is sarah i am get him a 20 year resident of san francisco. i can or right before the first big tech boom. prior to being in the
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cannabis industry, which i've been it for over three years, i was operations manager for nonprofit for civil rights in san francisco bay area. and i earned assets network. when i was 47 i was diagnosed with stage iii colon cancer and got my first card. after cancer, i decided to work in the industry . my first experience with a dispensary was really unsatisfactory, so when the apothecary opened was open up to what the possibilities could be for helping cancer patients like myself with nausea, eating, pain, etc. so, after three years i am a patient consultant. i is whether head up the education department in conjunction with the apothecary we have put together a program called med-bus. patient's supplementary medicine every other week to help with her needs. i speak on a national
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level this. i was honored to speak of the patient's at a conference about the importance of education for the industry and for patients. and, as of two days ago, i was actually the we were awarded the apothecary and myself, 10 awards for excellent and history, that's dispensary in california. so, i feel like him very well qualified to help. i am running for seats nine, 11, and 12. i feel that somebody who's worked in nonprofits experience coalition building, working on committees, and as an educator, i would be an excellent go-between between members of the committee then maybe not as well-versed in cannabis and also normalization with patients. we have patients from all walks of life. can this use help everybody. as fires answering questions, shot victim or would you like to ask >> if you would like to pick
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what's most pertinent to respond to. would you see the changes in industry and how it affects san francisco? what role would you play importing around that? >> absolute. education is target the empowerment helps the patients get we need to work toward having all the dispensary a very well educated patients and consultants behind their bars. we need to make sure that when we have visitors coming in would not made any stance with cannabis they understand what dosages. not only would this keep people safe, but also that help save the city's resources. if you have somebody that are really strong up in her hotel room and called onto the front of st. i think i'm dead and i need an ambulance, much money does that cost the city to actually have some sort of response. what kind of education towards people who are working in the
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policewoman, fire department, any of our services what they actually know what it's emergency and when it's not. i also feel like, like i said i can bridge the gap between the members of the task force could i also feel like medical patients cannot be forgotten as we go into recreational adult use as we call it. we need to make sure it remains affordable because of this i'm at sony patients were very ill on fixed incomes are having a very difficult time to be able to get the medicine they need and it would be worse if we charge more tax. that is it. thank you so much. >> thank you very much. next up is kevin read. >> good morning, supervise. kevin read. pres. and founder of the green crocs delivery service and medical edibles. i have been operating the
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dispensary for 11 years here in the city. i been living in the city for 20+ years. i think i would bring a overwhelming amount of experience to this task force. i served on the medical cannabis task force prior to this task force and i look forward to offering my time and assistance on this one if selected. >> thank you very much. in terms of our questions and 81 to respond to clicks green zone quacks and changes in industry quick >> i believe the green zone definitely needs to be expanded. i think it was a couple different districts that were automatically outed out of the green zone just for fear of too many coming into their districts. i believe the second level clause in our law currently is just something
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that should not be there. i think there's a lot more green zone space if we just tweak to what we have. i think that edibles, the packaging of edibles in the dosage of edibles is very important to address. i think any questions like yours am a potency, are very important. too much potency for some people is too much, people with cancer need very high potent products in order to combat cancer. so, it's important not to look at that in one light, but to look at it in every light. we offered as a medicine. >> one question i have not asked, what do you see as driving the politics behind the discussion on the green zone what do you think is part of the legal discussion? >> i think currently the discussion should resolve around the issue with
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legalization we are going to have a huge influx of new customers coming into our dispensers. i think the land-use around those dispensaries is going to be impacted severely. so, we do need more dispensaries in the city in order to handle legalization without a negative impact on neighborhoods. >> that's interesting statement. how many-i think there's 28 already existing in san francisco. so, what is the tipping point? >> the green cross currently serves 50,000 patients. >> so you mean out of 50,000, frankly, it's not that many but we do if i was to double that amount i'm sorry >> cohead >> if i was to double that
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amount which i believe legal recreational use will do it would have a heavy impact on my neighbor. >> what neighborhood is that? >> in the excelsior district. i've heard from your neighbors. >> so my question again is, what is the right ?. that's what this policy is gimme a policymaking body so want to know your policy chops? i wonder how you solve the problem? what things i'm listening too many folks in the interview, a key indicator of success his past success. i need people to come here and demonstrate to me they been successful, not that they just got into town or they been in the business for 20 years or they themselves are a user. that does not impress me. i want to know from a policy perspective how we are going to professionalize the fastest-growing industry, $82.7 billion industry. >> it can be a difficult task. i think that the applicants you
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have before you today are going to have a really hard time doing it, but i think big of a lot of intelligent people here. a lot of intelligent people in the city to support them. i think it can be done. i don't think one person has the answer. there's a lot of self interest >> i agree with you i think there's a lot of self-interest that's what john do you doubt the solve. when you say i think it can be done, i need more. i need to know him and i think it be done in here's the reason why. there are four points your three points on how it can be done. this is what i've done in my own business or this is what i've seen in the industry. >> what is it? >> exact. were talking up here and iq people cope to come down into the roots and into the grass, if you will and get out of the stratosphere. i want to know exactly what were talking about. i want to know i want to
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know every speaker to walk away from this microphone and i'm able to take a little something away. you're taking notes and i'm listening. i have to make a decision zone looking for something real to help me make that decision >> something i do believe israel is opening up those two districts of green zone, two districts that have a multitude of green zone that are not near our schools. i don't believe the answer is putting dispensaries close or dispose. >> the law prohibits that. we know that's not the answer. >> but only the second level, i believe you have an entire financial district of tall buildings that you can open up and be on any level. we the ground level clause in our current law. >> of ground-level clause by dispensaries to be on the ground level. >> correct. disabled people and handy and to get people to go up in an elevator is no reason we can't have second-level or above ground level facilities. again, those
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two districts of this entire city that were completely cut out, including the south of market district in the bayview district, that could be opened back up with a multitude of green zone areas that would address this very problem. >> let's talk about that since you brought up the bayview district. it would be a teachable moment for everyone in the gym and as you and i represent the bayview district. why do you think the bayview community has been resistance to accepting entry into the green zone? >> supervisor maxwell's >> supervisor maxwell is a long the supervised. >> but the reasoning for that cause what she had the power plants, the sewage plant. she didn't want the pot plants >>. get supervisor cohen >> i know you're working very hard to improve your district improving your district would be opening up community source like mine that would help to improve your district, bring more people into your district.
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i mean, it's said that your people in your district have to go to all the way to the other side of town to get their medicine and it will be sad for them to have to go to the other side of town- >> the people in the southeast are cousins and to go to the other side of town for everything. because we don't have a grocery store because we don't have high-performing schools. so, that argument with me is flat. >> i believe you need more schools >> we need a lot more than access to a dispensary. to enable some of the social justice and challenges that were dealing with. i don't have any other questions supervisor avalos did we should continue on >> is a word mr. reid has the green cross in the-district and he's actually there is a green cross is a good neighbor and that part of the excelsior and stands out from the other
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dispensaries there. i would make sure >> definitely good to know. i'm not picking on you. >> i don't take it that way as well. >> i'm using that as an example because were to be here for hours on everyone that scott, for this microphone bring their that off-again. so far i've not heard anything it's impressive to me. i want concrete and solid plans. i want you to convince me he was a people for this position. >> mr. wiener >> i think we've had some really interesting candidates come up so far done some really impressive things. so, i would perspective on it and agrees everyone needs to articulate their work as clearly as possible. >> thank you. >> i would say the neck speaker to read is not going to be here. >> okay to read is not here so we'll go on to-i don't see anyone standing up an lp penelope devries.
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>> i am pennock penelope tabriz. i'm very excited to have the opportunity to serve san francisco on the cannabis task force. i've applied to fill vacancy number nine. i was raised in northern california. moved here in san francisco at age 18. both my children here and my three grandchildren have been born and raised here. ivan investment in this community. the city is my home for 50 years. during that time, i don't and managed three businesses. iona managed to restaurants and a medical cannabis clinic providing support to physicians, lawyers, haitians, collectives and dispensaries. currently, i
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managed to apartment buildings and then spent san francisco work two days a week in a cannabis business attorney's office. i served for the last year and a half as a secretary of the brownie democratic club of san francisco we have lots of discussions about expanding the green zone. the kind of business model that we are interested in in san francisco, and all of california. so, i thank you for asking those questions. i think that one of the big things that all patients want to know, is where their marijuana comes from. is it outdoor grown? how much pesticides it has, etc. because these are things that are of concern for us. i'm a grade of finger and a problem solver.
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using these skills with the knowledge gained from working closely with cannabis doctors, lawyers, patients and activist, makes me an ideal candidate for the past task force challenges. i appreciate your consideration for this. one of the things that i noticed there were having discussions about interims of answering your questions, that, after legalization, there will be a lot of businesses such as massage parlors who want to integrate canada's oil, for instance, into the massage parlors. the be a lot of businesses that may not be restricted any longer by offering cannabis additions to their products. coffee shops, for instance. if not selling liquor, can it provide any kind of cannabis drinks? those are some considerations that we all have to make on the cannabis task force to open that up. as well as opening up the green zone so that districts have-all districts have access. one
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thing i will say about the bayview, for instance, not having or any other place, not perhaps having as many businesses as other districts, is that the cannabis clubs that i've known, the function, they go into the neighborhoods to talk to the other purveyors. to talk to the hotel owners. to get the community behind them. a lot of them provide services that would otherwise not be provided. security on a dicey street for instance. there are lots of cannabis businesses who are interested in owning other businesses as well. so, the expansion could very well be -and there could be conditional use permits, whereby you can
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own a cannabis dispensary if you provide some other kinds of services. but, a lot of the dispensaries at the moment in san francisco provide massage, acupuncture, street security, just to name three. they're very generous. they're good to their workers. they are really good to the public. they provide a lot of knowledge to people. you can walk in there and never having used cannabis before and you will get plenty of information and support for what your goal is. >> one of the things i'm concerned about if you remember there was a prohibition on how call. in this country to make alcohol illegal and then they created an underground culture. the market. then the government said okay, were doing this rocket were going to legalize it. so, that's kind of what i'm seeing with the cannabis community. so now it's legalize. we can continue to stick with the bayview community. i get somebody
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liquor store. if we do not supervisor maxwell's wisdom, who knows how many cannabis dispensaries that we would have popping up,. the plant is cheap. certainly few years ago it was. over across flow, you know. so, for me, one of the things i'm concerned about is, i do want to say and over over proliferation of the dispensaries all around the city popping up as if they are like liquor stores. in my opinion, the liquor stores in particular, have poison the community and have been parts of the destruction of the social fabric. so i'm not doing a whole bunch of cannabis clubs to come in to complement the already elements of addiction and abuse. i do recognize that medicinal purposes of cannabis,
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and have respect but one of the things when people say it's a drug or excuse me, not a drug, as a medication, i really cannot push back and am looking maybe someone can educate me here today-about how we go to a pharmacy for dispensers of any kind of other drugs, but we will yet we would go to what i consider equivalent of a liquor store. again, my education and understanding of the cannabis community and industry is growing. it's evolving. i don't profess to know a lot about the industry however, i know intimately the challenges that working-class neighborhoods are dealing with. i know intimately with communities of color are struggling with. i know intimately that asking american latinos have been charged and
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disproportional rate for possession of medical marijuana, but yet having trouble breaking into this industry because of access, lack of access. i'm struggling because i'm not seeing the level of diversity that i need to see in order for it to put together a commission that needs to represent the entire body of the san francisco community. so, i certainly appreciate your interest and respect your business and the use of this this a tough climate to be in business. i know it's tough, so i don't want you to take my remarks again, personally. >> no. i think you're challenges are very valid and
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one comment i would make immediately is that every one of those liquor stores had to apply for a liquor license. somebody stamped at that and said okay, you can open that. the same with the dispensaries. every single one of the dispensaries have to come in front of the board of permit appeals to get their business permits and get permission. they can just open without the community having some kind of input. so, i would think that the legalization it would not be a rubber stamp. not everybody can just open up their homes and say i'm running a cannabis store here in a friends living room now. they have to be permitted. it has to-somebody has to approve this permits. so, that would be one of the considerations. what is it that permits a process going to be any different? is a good be much engine >> fantastic. now you're talking now you're talking. i'm glad you're talking off the page. i want to know what
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people are thing when it's politically correct. if you want to come in my neighborhood you tell me why should come into my neighborhood. >> exactly what your obligations which your background and how are you going to contribute to my community. >> thank you. i'm done. >> you are leaving? >> no. >> just joking. thank you very much. next up is benjamin mentone. i'm not sure benjamin is here. i do not get a confirmation. he is. >> good afternoon. my name is benjamin manson i live in san francisco for 12 e. of in the medical cannabis industry for about eight years now. today i'm applying for seats nine, 11, 12, and 22. it's my interest to serve on the board to represent the concerns of the retail cannabis workers in the end. the people actually sign the marijuana to the people could also, to take part in the conversation in
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relationship to testing the vegetables, flowers and concentrates because concentrates it's very kind of gray area as to the safety and the cleverness of the process. it needs -there needs the rules for this from this committee as to how we want to set standards for testing as far as parts per million for butane, ever allowed butane process. that would be my main concern. thank you for your time today. if you have any questions. it's very important that we keep the distinction between liquor stores and cannabis. dispensaries because both like, when you go into a cannabis dispensary, you are in a lump it when you go into a alcohol store, there is a constant flow
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of people. when you look at recreational legalization, you need to consider the customer flow and the impact it's going to have on the neighborhood that they already exist and it is why you need to look at expanding the area. on this task force, adding it's very important to consider the people that are at the lowest level of this cannabis industry that will impact their lives >> when you say consider the people on the lowest level, what is the main? >> of that but the hourly wage workers working at the dispensaries. that as this recreational legalization happens is going to become more more like a starbucks employee and less and less like a pharmacy worker. so, i want to preserve the integrity of those workers >> i appreciate you educating me on that. >> abuts do have those fancy
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cups talus [inaudible]. >> yes. it's very important to also keep this medical wing and not got our medical system do we have in san francisco or in the state levi for patients rights or allowing access to people that want to smoke and have fun. working at the window, uca know people that are directly impacted by this and i need to have this system is currently in place available to them so they don't have to stay behind kids looking to get dad as high as they can. >> thank you. next up, i'm not sure if this person is you. sarah schrader. >> good morning. thanks for having me my name is sarah schrader and applying for seats nine, 11, 12 and 13. mineta of san francisco. the graduate of thurgood marshall in the graduate of city college. i'm a
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mother of two ages five and eight. formally on medical cannabis passports. a working group that created it. 20th 2000 was a motor vehicle as always left me with a diagnosis that can be lifelong. turnover 34 prescriptions for my condition and none of them have given me the quality of life that cannabis has been so officially gone off all prescriptions due to this. i've been involved as an activist in 2002 after witnessing my first rate. i expected the medicine to be gone from the dispensaries but what i did not expect with the service be taken from the community. hot food for children support groups for patients, it was really at that point it became an advocate for medical cannabis. my diverse work in volunteer work can help bring about balance perspective to this task force. i know what it's like to be a neighbor of a dispensary as i used to live next door to one. i understand the needs of mentally and
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physically disabled patients that used to be in-home caregiver. i understand the hurdles the patient's face with housing, cbs, employment and is a peer counselor at for eight years i did education augusta with california the dispensaries got to know the majority of dispensaries here in san francisco even before regulation process happen. i participate in for california lobby days, three congressional lobby days, the last five years for my learn to think outside the box is illegal assistant for an aggressive cannabis defense attorney. my goal is to create some policies that reflect our new state bills. we have 17 different permits available at the state and what is that going to look out for us here. i also recognize within the initiative come up with a lot of work to do see what regulation for legalization looks for. i think we should learn from places like washington, where they made the most out of every patient by instituting dui laws could i would make sure our system does not criminalize more patience and benefit the city of san francisco. >> great. thank you much.
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>> either quick question at sarah, question. does the state of california require people to have a performance bond in order to work in this industry? >> the majority of dispensaries have some kind of insurance dispensary but not required of any bonds being required. i've read through the 60 pages state bills and i don't remember recall anything mentioning that at this time >> how much insurance companies required to carry? >> out of those apartment at the time. honestly, i'm not knowledgeable at that and more for patient advocates perspective. >> thank you. >> can respond to your question related to the bayview and aspects in general? 02 worst and middle school it is very tempting. as a liquor store and good vibrations right across the street. this one checkpoint when you go to those
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stores. to get to the counter they idu do. when the going to a dispensary there's at least three checkpoints. having to current person with the person agreed to at the door, your membership person make a person is a collective member and as a person you meet at the counter. so as far as regulation, youths and symptoms go this a lot easier for me to access illegal drugs than legal ones because they do not have a regulatory system. >> thank you very much for the comments. >> thank you. we are going to to 12:30 pm and i would take a 15 min. break. then will come back. the royal year is getting tax. so, next person is paul anthony camille. >> hello. my name is paul kimmel larry. i'm applying for seat number nine. at 19 years experience as a medical cannabis indoor cultivator in san francisco california. i am also a caretaker for my wife, who is
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a two-time cancer survivor in remission and a father of a 12-year-old boy 25-year-old young lady. i'm currently an active participant in compliance with ordinance for san francisco city certified medical cannabis growth. i'm currently registered as a medical cannabis greenhouse which san francisco in a nonresidential zone. i strongly believe the medical cannabis should be transitioned out of the residential zones and into commercial and industrial zones. being a 41-year-old native san francisco, i've seen firsthand how and why it is crucial to have ordinance to benefit the community and safety. most importantly, it provides safe medicine to medical cannabis patients in all walks of life. thank you very much for your time. >> thank you. you have any other questions? something
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about the green zone. a little bit about my shoulders industrial areas, which uca some of the discussion that's going to be around the green zone in san francisco and the task force may be taking that up the cracks >> definitely more space as a recreational. i'm more for in the growing area and going to ordinance and everything to see disease understaffed in this department has lack of direction. so, i work with the health department, fire department, trying to resolve these things and apply an ordinance and make a better safer community like i said, i've seen firsthand what happens in the residential zones. it's too clustered. it gets too big. it's a little out
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of control. it needs to be jane. i want to be a part of it. i feel i qualified with my years of experience. just not experience a good experience. i am proactive. i'm not responsive grower. >> thank you. what about the state laws that are coming before us that go before voter approval for growers. what is the range of options that are being put forward for how growers will be treated? how do you think that would affect san francisco in terms of growing whether we would see it happening, and being supplied by growers outside the city or see a huge increase in growers here, and how would that be manage? >> that depends on the zoning and the building department inspections. the people of the community how
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